1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:05:41,540 --> 00:05:46,299 If you're talking about music, I think Royal Court is Punk 4 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:52,099 It feels so alive, it feels un-cynical, it feels like it really is about the work 5 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:55,259 The last thing you've come to see is the most exciting 6 00:05:55,260 --> 00:05:58,419 You come and see a play here and you know what's going on in the world 7 00:05:58,420 --> 00:06:01,156 You keep an ear out and an eye out for what's going on at the Royal Court, 8 00:06:01,180 --> 00:06:05,259 and that for me is the mark of somewhere that is special, and valuable, and vital 9 00:06:05,260 --> 00:06:08,579 It's got to have its finger on the pulse, and that's why people keep coming 10 00:06:08,580 --> 00:06:15,580 'Sixty years new' is exactly right 11 00:06:15,820 --> 00:06:20,259 I think there was something radical in the original ideas... 12 00:06:20,260 --> 00:06:27,260 ...that sat underneath the English Stage Company at the Royal Court Theatre in the Fifties, 13 00:06:27,700 --> 00:06:31,979 in which it was suggested that the function of the theatre... 14 00:06:31,980 --> 00:06:36,659 ...should be to committing to making work that was challenging in form and content, 15 00:06:36,660 --> 00:06:40,379 and that it should lead with the playwright as the principal artist 16 00:06:40,380 --> 00:06:46,219 But the real buzz of that building, the real reasoning behind its existence... 17 00:06:46,220 --> 00:06:52,259 ...is to put new writing at the forefront of British theatrical culture, and it's done that for decades 18 00:06:52,260 --> 00:06:59,260 And if we don't have new writers expressing what it is to be alive now, in our current vocabulary, 19 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:04,299 then we are a much poorer society 20 00:07:04,300 --> 00:07:09,299 It's about pushing boundaries and it's about challenging people's perceptions and ideas, 21 00:07:09,300 --> 00:07:16,300 and just theatre in general 22 00:07:17,300 --> 00:07:24,300 We, as actors, live through being challenged by new writers. We don't improve... 23 00:07:24,620 --> 00:07:29,739 ...unless we have new writers to give us roles to play and interesting subject matter to respond to 24 00:07:29,740 --> 00:07:34,659 This is a small theatre but it's got a huge, huge reputation 25 00:07:34,660 --> 00:07:41,219 You can be big, you can be epic, and you can be very small and intimate, and it holds both 26 00:07:41,220 --> 00:07:48,220 It has been the launch pad for some pretty important writers and some important works 27 00:07:48,260 --> 00:07:52,779 It tells stories and puts people on stage that - you could say - 28 00:07:52,780 --> 00:07:55,019 before were fighting to get their voices heard 29 00:07:55,020 --> 00:08:01,219 It doesn't sit and wait for great writing to come: it, I think, has invested amazing resources... 30 00:08:01,220 --> 00:08:04,979 ...in going out and finding people who might be writers, could be writers 31 00:08:04,980 --> 00:08:08,619 It always has been the engine-room of new writing 32 00:08:08,620 --> 00:08:12,379 Simon Stephenson, Mike Bartlett and Christopher Shinn... 33 00:08:12,380 --> 00:08:17,779 Beckett, Ionesco, Crimp, Debbie Tucker Green, Polly Stenham... 34 00:08:17,780 --> 00:08:19,939 'The Sugar Syndrome' by Lucy Prebble 35 00:08:19,940 --> 00:08:21,179 'Blue Heart' 36 00:08:21,180 --> 00:08:22,619 'Love, Love, Love' 37 00:08:22,620 --> 00:08:25,339 The Athol Fugard season in 1974 38 00:08:25,340 --> 00:08:26,899 Caryl Churchill's 'A Number' 39 00:08:26,900 --> 00:08:29,139 'Top Girls'... just extraordinary 40 00:08:29,140 --> 00:08:31,379 They all affect you in so many different ways 41 00:08:31,380 --> 00:08:38,380 Shakespeare was once a new writer, let's not forget that 42 00:09:26,460 --> 00:09:28,739 Oh, you punctual bastards! 43 00:09:28,740 --> 00:09:35,099 It'll all go easier for ya, lad, if you just accept it and don't make a fuss 44 00:09:35,100 --> 00:09:39,299 Of course I'm going to make a fuss! I'm an innocent man! 'A fuss!' 45 00:09:39,300 --> 00:09:43,819 Get the strap on, Syd. Guards! - What's the strap for? Who are them at the door? 46 00:09:43,820 --> 00:09:48,899 It's the Governor and the doctor, James - Gawking at doors! 47 00:09:48,900 --> 00:09:55,059 This is my cell, get out! - Just go easy, lad 48 00:09:55,060 --> 00:10:00,379 No I won't go easy! You go easy! 49 00:10:00,380 --> 00:10:02,619 You're hanging an innocent man 50 00:10:02,620 --> 00:10:06,619 I never even met the girl! I've never even been to Norfolk! 51 00:10:06,620 --> 00:10:09,939 That's just the whys and wherefores. That's nowt to do with me 52 00:10:09,940 --> 00:10:13,379 Of course it's to do with you, you Northern bastard 53 00:10:13,380 --> 00:10:16,779 We'll have none of that 'Northern' palaver neither 54 00:10:16,780 --> 00:10:23,780 What's he saying? He can't even talk normal and he's hanging an innocent man 55 00:10:26,860 --> 00:10:30,859 They could've at least sent Pierrepoint 56 00:10:30,860 --> 00:10:35,459 I'm just as good as bloody Pierrepoint 57 00:10:35,460 --> 00:10:40,979 Hung by a rubbish hangman, oh that's so me! - He is just as good as Pierrepoint, Mr Hennessy 58 00:10:40,980 --> 00:10:47,459 Well, he's shit so far - That's your bloody fault! Get his bloody arms 59 00:10:47,460 --> 00:10:50,939 It's only 'cos I'm scared, isn't it? I'm not normally like this 60 00:10:50,940 --> 00:10:54,476 And I've told ya, if you'd just relax, it'd be all the easier for ya 61 00:10:54,500 --> 00:10:57,996 It won't be easier for me. I'll be dead - Everybody says you're a good lad 62 00:10:58,020 --> 00:11:01,019 I am a good lad - We know you're a good lad 63 00:11:01,020 --> 00:11:03,753 What are you fucking hanging me for then? 64 00:11:03,820 --> 00:11:05,660 It's the courts that's hanging ya, not us 65 00:11:05,684 --> 00:11:09,343 Well I'm holding you and you personally responsible 66 00:11:09,837 --> 00:11:12,575 Not you two, you were nice. You two 67 00:11:13,391 --> 00:11:19,747 I will come back to whatever Northern shithole you live in and I will fucking haunt you 68 00:11:19,945 --> 00:11:21,427 That's not a nice thing to say, is it? 69 00:11:21,624 --> 00:11:24,456 Syd! You're just standing around having a chat like a bloody mouse 70 00:11:24,697 --> 00:11:28,029 He's allowed to stand around having a chat like a bloody mouse if he wants to 71 00:11:28,299 --> 00:11:33,824 No, but he's right, Mr Hennessy. If you'd've just tried to relax you could've been dead by now 72 00:11:35,233 --> 00:11:42,730 Is he having a laugh? Is the mouse having a laugh? I'm getting hung by nincompoops 73 00:11:43,026 --> 00:11:46,876 'Hanged'... You're getting 'hanged' by nincompoops 74 00:11:47,107 --> 00:11:51,192 I've heard it all now! Correcting me English at a time like this! 75 00:11:51,530 --> 00:11:53,086 Let go of that bedstead now 76 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:59,971 I let go of this bedstead, I'm a dead man, so no, I won't let go of this bedstead, actually 77 00:12:00,564 --> 00:12:04,182 He's right, of course 78 00:12:04,340 --> 00:12:09,346 Oh, I say... - Shut it! Shut your bloody mouths. Stand him up 79 00:12:09,543 --> 00:12:11,853 Having a nice chat, were we? - I wasn't, Harry 80 00:12:12,023 --> 00:12:15,168 'You're getting hanged by bloody nincompoops' 81 00:12:15,654 --> 00:12:18,134 Don't do it tight, I've got a bad wrist 82 00:12:18,297 --> 00:12:21,170 You didn't have a bad wrist when you were clinging to that bedstead 83 00:12:21,372 --> 00:12:25,728 I did! - Do it tight. And get ahold of him. Follow me 84 00:12:26,848 --> 00:12:32,285 No no no no no, it's not fair 85 00:12:34,055 --> 00:12:35,755 I never even met the girl, Mr Wade 86 00:12:36,290 --> 00:12:40,998 I've never had a problem with the ladies. Ask anybody. Why would I do a nasty thing like that? 87 00:12:41,161 --> 00:12:42,754 That's nowt to do with me, is it? 88 00:12:42,908 --> 00:12:46,173 But I've never even been to Norfolk. Or anywhere in East Anglia 89 00:12:46,987 --> 00:12:48,534 What's that, a hood? 90 00:12:49,583 --> 00:12:52,721 I don't want the hood. Can I not have the hood? 91 00:12:52,911 --> 00:12:56,938 I promise I'll go quietly if I don't have to have the hood 92 00:13:07,169 --> 00:13:08,861 Where's doctor? - Here, Sir 93 00:13:09,054 --> 00:13:11,596 Well, go down and bloody check on him, lad - Right 94 00:13:11,807 --> 00:13:14,771 Have somebody do their bloody job properly today 95 00:13:14,945 --> 00:13:18,790 Where'd they get you two? Window at fucking Debenhams? 96 00:13:18,970 --> 00:13:20,037 And as for you... 97 00:13:20,231 --> 00:13:23,744 What were I supposed to do, Harry? He were clinging on to that b-b-bedstead... 98 00:13:23,768 --> 00:13:27,724 'Bedstead'. Here comes the stutter - ...bedstead for dear life 99 00:13:27,748 --> 00:13:29,863 Finished, have ya? 'Bedstead'? 100 00:13:30,078 --> 00:13:33,506 And we'll have none of this going down in t' bloody report, neither 101 00:13:33,701 --> 00:13:34,855 No. Of course 102 00:13:34,989 --> 00:13:38,185 He went to his death protesting his innocence. End of story 103 00:13:38,351 --> 00:13:42,447 Saves his blushes, saves these lads' blushes, saves 'Bedstead''s blushes 104 00:13:42,792 --> 00:13:44,442 Are we right? - We're right, yes 105 00:13:44,601 --> 00:13:47,645 We're right. Good 106 00:13:56,449 --> 00:13:58,747 'Albert bloody Pierrepoint' 107 00:13:58,944 --> 00:14:03,397 Yes, he's dead. Quite dead - 'Course he's quite dead. What else would he be? 108 00:14:03,587 --> 00:14:08,493 Now where's our bloody breakfast? I, for one, am fucking starved 109 00:16:14,290 --> 00:16:16,552 But you must have a comment, Harry - Must he? 110 00:16:16,736 --> 00:16:19,186 I do have a comment, lad. 'No comment' 111 00:16:19,364 --> 00:16:23,828 That were a good one, Harry. 'No comment' - What were it? 112 00:16:24,015 --> 00:16:29,696 Newspaper lad says 'But you must have a comment, Harry'. Harry says 'I do have a comment. No comment' 113 00:16:29,872 --> 00:16:32,796 That were a good 'un! He just said same thing first lad said 114 00:16:32,945 --> 00:16:35,777 Oh Harry, I've driven all the way up from Manchester 115 00:16:35,966 --> 00:16:40,456 You'll be driving all the way down to Manchester an' all. Commentless! 116 00:16:40,858 --> 00:16:43,571 What did he say? - He said 'Piss off back to Manchester'... 117 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:46,107 I didn't say 'Piss off', Charlie - ...'Commentless!' 118 00:16:46,131 --> 00:16:47,546 What-less? - 'Commentless' 119 00:16:47,967 --> 00:16:49,158 That were good! 120 00:16:49,321 --> 00:16:52,089 Do you want us to arrest him, Harry lad? Or just give him a bloody hiding? 121 00:16:52,263 --> 00:16:53,590 Arrest me for what, Inspector? 122 00:16:53,763 --> 00:16:57,361 For being underage in a public bar, for a start off. How old are ya, twelve? 123 00:16:57,522 --> 00:16:59,869 Five, more like 124 00:17:00,497 --> 00:17:06,186 Inspector says, 'How old are ya, twelve?' Harry says 'Five, more like' 125 00:17:06,366 --> 00:17:07,759 Younger! I get it 126 00:17:09,728 --> 00:17:15,373 Come on, Harry, it's not every day they abolish hanging, is it? You must have summat to say 127 00:17:15,563 --> 00:17:19,289 It's not, lad, you're right. And I know that's why half o' you bastards are in here today 128 00:17:19,433 --> 00:17:20,459 Language, Harry! 129 00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:24,021 And I do have my opinions on this abolition business. How could I not, like? 130 00:17:24,187 --> 00:17:28,275 Same as I've had a variety of opinions over the years, on a variety of subjects 131 00:17:28,439 --> 00:17:31,691 He's had a variety of opinions on subjects over the years, I've heard 'em 132 00:17:31,871 --> 00:17:36,152 But one thing... You haven't heard 'em, Bill, that's what I'm saying 133 00:17:36,330 --> 00:17:40,274 'Cos one thing I've always prided myself on, for right or for wrong, 134 00:17:40,458 --> 00:17:44,942 I'm not saying I'm a special man, but one thing I've always prided myself on... 135 00:17:45,054 --> 00:17:50,222 ...is that, on the subject of hanging, I've always chosen to keep my own counsel 136 00:17:50,612 --> 00:17:55,621 I've always chosen not to say a public word on this very private matter 137 00:17:55,810 --> 00:18:00,324 And why have I chosen to do that, you may ask? - Why? 138 00:18:00,740 --> 00:18:07,299 For the past twenty-five year now I have been a servant of the Crown in the capacity of hangman 139 00:18:07,300 --> 00:18:11,059 'A what of the Crown?' did you say? 'A spokesman for the Crown'? 140 00:18:11,060 --> 00:18:15,339 No. A servant of the Crown - A servant of the crown 141 00:18:15,340 --> 00:18:18,339 And when was the last time you heard a servant making speeches? 142 00:18:18,340 --> 00:18:21,059 Never - Russia 143 00:18:21,060 --> 00:18:26,419 'Russia'? You'd be shot if you made a speech in Russia, what are ya talking about, Bill? 144 00:18:26,420 --> 00:18:30,259 No, I were thinking in the olden days - Well it were even worse in the olden days 145 00:18:30,260 --> 00:18:35,339 Stop talking daft, Bill. Bill's talking daft again 146 00:18:35,340 --> 00:18:39,419 A servant of the Crown. I let the other people make the speeches: 147 00:18:39,420 --> 00:18:43,339 the politicians, the ministers, the... devil's advocates 148 00:18:43,340 --> 00:18:47,539 Sometimes the Police Inspectors when they've sobered up enough 149 00:18:47,540 --> 00:18:50,659 Oops, sorry, Inspector Fry, I didn't see ya there 150 00:18:50,660 --> 00:18:54,579 Apology accepted, hic! 151 00:18:54,980 --> 00:18:59,579 'Sobered up', he were saying, and then the police inspector says 'Hic' 152 00:18:59,580 --> 00:19:03,419 Aye. I don't get it, but I don't know the man 153 00:19:03,420 --> 00:19:05,379 You do know the man 154 00:19:05,380 --> 00:19:11,899 Me? I keep my own counsel. The day will come when fellas finally see some sense and ask me my opinion 155 00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:15,779 But until that bright day comes, I shall keep my own counsel, as I see fit, 156 00:19:15,780 --> 00:19:20,259 and leave the jibber-jabber to the riff-raff, the riff-raff being you sorry lot 157 00:19:20,260 --> 00:19:22,059 Now who wants a bloody pint? 158 00:19:22,060 --> 00:19:27,219 But that day has come, Harry. We have seen sense. I am asking your opinion 159 00:19:27,220 --> 00:19:32,059 Aye, and I've already told you, lad - He already told ya, lad 160 00:19:32,060 --> 00:19:36,619 And there's no table-service! - Ease up, love. Lad's only just took his coat off 161 00:19:36,620 --> 00:19:41,459 Well, I know the type, don't I? Sitting down! 162 00:19:42,060 --> 00:19:45,659 Pint, is it, love? - Pint, yes, and a small bag of peanuts 163 00:19:45,660 --> 00:19:48,739 We've only the one size. I'll get you them 164 00:19:48,740 --> 00:19:50,619 London, are ya? - Round that way 165 00:19:50,620 --> 00:19:53,219 Well you either are or ya aren't - Exactly 166 00:19:53,220 --> 00:19:56,019 I've got a quote for ya, lad - Yeah, what's that then? 167 00:19:56,020 --> 00:20:00,339 'Hanging's too good for 'em'. 'Cos it is, in't it? - Oh right, aye. Thanks 168 00:20:00,340 --> 00:20:04,379 The country thinks that, the people think that. It's only the politicians disagree, 169 00:20:04,380 --> 00:20:08,739 which is the crossroads at which we find ourselves today. In a right jam. In't that right, Harry? 170 00:20:08,740 --> 00:20:11,379 In't what right? - Hanging's too good for 'em 171 00:20:11,380 --> 00:20:14,539 Didn't I just do a big bloody speech about keeping me own counsel? 172 00:20:14,540 --> 00:20:19,036 I wouldn't be keeping me own bloody counsel if I made a comment on that, would I? 173 00:20:19,060 --> 00:20:24,927 Ya daft pillock! Why do I even try? - It's true, Harry! You shouldn't even try 174 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:31,339 No, I were just saying. I were just agreeing, like. Hanging's too good for 'em, in't it? 175 00:20:31,340 --> 00:20:36,294 Have yourself another pint, Bill. And try to keep up 176 00:20:37,020 --> 00:20:40,459 I'll have another pint, Alice 177 00:20:40,460 --> 00:20:46,639 Religion and politics, in't it? They say you should never... something something something 178 00:20:47,140 --> 00:20:50,019 There's your pint and your peanuts, love. That's a shilling 179 00:20:50,020 --> 00:20:53,286 That's very good value 180 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,866 So what were up with her then, George? Phyllis Keane, you were saying earlier 181 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,159 What were up with her? - That you'd have to do summat that drastic 182 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:09,599 I tell you what were up with her. Every car number plate that passed, she'd have to read out, out loud 183 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,999 Every car, mind. That's a lot of cars in Burnley 184 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:18,519 Every broken paving stone she passed, she'd have to... either step on it or not step on it, 185 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,879 I can't remember which, but again, Burnley, you'd be hopping all day 186 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,199 And what were t'other one? 187 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,959 That's a famous one though, in't it, paving stones? I wouldn't go by that 188 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,479 Oh give over, Alice - What? 189 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,919 You're always defending daft 'uns - I'm not 190 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:37,639 Bodies of water! She'd have to walk clockwise around bodies of water. Lakes or bridges, like. Clockwise 191 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,759 Burnley, you'd be all right - No, anti-clockwise. She had to keep them on her left 192 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,999 Yeah, but we all have things like that, don't we, George? Quirks 193 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,359 It's no call to put a poor girl in a mental home 194 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:50,719 I don't have things like that - I don't have things like that 195 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:56,039 I don't have 'quirks'! I don't have to read out every car number plate that passes 196 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,839 I don't do that, you don't do that 197 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,199 Sometimes I'll read one out in me head, if they're a funny one 198 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,639 Well how is reading something out in your head, reading something out out loud? 199 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,839 No, he's right there 200 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,199 On top of the bloody paving stones! On top of the bloody clockwise! 201 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,439 Anti-clockwise - Anti-clockwise 202 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,999 It's no call to put a girl in a home, is all I'm saying. At fifteen, like 203 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,679 Who the hell are we talking about, any road? - Phyllis Keane 204 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,879 Who? - She's a school-friend of our Shirley's 205 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,439 Oh. Does our Shirley know? - No, she were only sent down this after 206 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:29,559 Let's not tell her till bedtime, Alice. It's any excuse to mope with our Shirley 207 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,399 Teens, in't it? It's the music, for me 208 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,199 In't the music. It's the sitting around on your fat arse all day... 209 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,959 ...mooning - Reading 210 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:44,959 What? - 'Sitting on your fat arse all day, reading' 211 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:49,559 Not 'Reading'. Mooning. You stay out of it, any road 212 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:56,060 Could I have another pint, please? I'll come over once it's poured 213 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,639 Don't mind him, love. He just don't know the ropes yet, does he? 214 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,439 There's ropes and there's ropes, though, in't there? 215 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,519 Well, that were my afternoon, any road. Driving nutters about 216 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,879 Then I thought I'd pop o'er here to your nutters, 217 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:17,119 and make sure you didn't get any shite from newspaper reporters or underage drinkers 218 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:20,959 Oh, sorry, Clegg, are you still here, lad? 219 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,679 Thanks. I'm only halfway through the nuts so I won't get any more of them 220 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,239 All right, love - I'm slow with nuts 221 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,959 Another two here, Harry, please 222 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,999 What was that? - You heard 223 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,079 Oh, speak of the devil! 224 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,279 The devil? Me? How, dad? - Howdo, Shirley 225 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,359 Howdo, Inspector Fry. Lads - Shirley 226 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:45,279 Well, are you helping pull pints or are you just going to stand there like a cloud? 227 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,439 Oh, aye 228 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,599 Stand there like a what? - Like a clown 229 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,559 Oh. I thought you said 'cloud' 230 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,559 I think I'll go now then, Mr Wade 231 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:02,079 All right, lad. I suppose your mam'll be wondering where you are 232 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:07,419 His mam! - He said his mam and he's not even that young 233 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,759 He's probably got his own place to stay, like a flat 234 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:18,760 No. The paper said I were to speak to Albert Pierrepoint too, see if he's got... 235 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:28,960 ...owt to say about this abolition business 236 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:36,400 Him being, y'know... the Number One hangman all them years... 237 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,159 ...and that 238 00:24:40,260 --> 00:24:43,179 Oh aye? - Aye. Over at his pub. What's it called again? 239 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,279 'Help The Poor Struggler'. It's a very good pub, actually 240 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,679 Pierrepoint's pub's Failsworth. You'd've passed Pierrepoint's pub on't way 241 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,479 Why didn't you pop in on road o'er? 242 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,359 Why? - Aye, why? 243 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:57,159 Well... it's obvious, isn't it? - If it were obvious, I wouldn't be asking, would I? 244 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:04,119 He does have a point. Why didn't you just ask at Pierrepoint's pub 'on't road o'er'? 245 00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:07,559 Well... 246 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,039 I wanted a quote from the hangman, didn't I? 247 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:18,839 The hangman that was still called upon at hanging's dying days. The one whose opinion matters 248 00:25:18,940 --> 00:25:25,239 Not from some bloody has-been who quit his post ten years since... 249 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,019 Y'know? 250 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,759 Was this your pint, lad? 251 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,439 I was just going, Harry - No, it were mine 252 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,239 Stay for your pint, lad, it's poured now - It's on the house 253 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,159 It in't on the house, but it's poured now so you're having it 254 00:25:37,260 --> 00:25:43,019 Right. Now, I don't mind talking to ya, but we'll be doing it upstairs, 255 00:25:43,020 --> 00:25:47,059 away from the prying ears of these bloody jackdaws - Oh, Harry! 256 00:25:47,060 --> 00:25:51,059 And I'll be talking to ya off the record because, as I believe I said to ya before, 257 00:25:51,060 --> 00:25:53,659 I like to keep my own counsel. Now step this way 258 00:25:53,660 --> 00:25:56,259 But there's no point talking, Harry, if it's going to be off the record 259 00:25:56,260 --> 00:25:58,379 Don't push your... - Pierrepoint wasn't going to be off the record 260 00:25:58,380 --> 00:26:04,519 Don't push your fucking luck, all right? Don't push your luck 261 00:26:05,020 --> 00:26:07,459 And what are you smirking at? 262 00:26:07,460 --> 00:26:13,239 There's a photo in the paper of a funny-looking black chap 263 00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:17,199 Upstairs if you want to chat 264 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:24,259 But it's a pigsty upstairs, Harry - Well, whose bloody fault is that? 265 00:26:24,260 --> 00:26:26,619 Is Harry gone? - Looks like it, don't it? 266 00:26:26,620 --> 00:26:28,379 How long is he going to be gone for? 267 00:26:28,380 --> 00:26:35,880 Well I don't know, do I? This is a circus, not a... This is a pub, not a three-ring bloody circus 268 00:26:37,540 --> 00:26:40,859 Will he be a while? 269 00:26:41,060 --> 00:26:43,179 Where are you going, Mam? - Fag 270 00:26:43,180 --> 00:26:44,739 I can't serve on me own 271 00:26:44,740 --> 00:26:51,540 Yeah, ya can. It'll do you good. Take you out of yourself 272 00:26:54,940 --> 00:26:59,099 I were going to have another pint, but if the hangman's gone off I might go 273 00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:03,779 I don't even like the pints here, but they've a hangman - This is the hangman's daughter, Arthur. Shirley 274 00:27:03,780 --> 00:27:07,859 I know. I know that from before. Where's this t'other hangman's pub? 275 00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:11,979 Failsworth - Failsworth? Failsworth's miles 276 00:27:11,980 --> 00:27:15,259 Well I don't know whether to wait for the hangman to come back or to go. I only came for t'hangman 277 00:27:15,260 --> 00:27:20,760 Have another pint, Arthur. Jesus! - I will 278 00:27:23,860 --> 00:27:26,139 I'll have the same again, please, Miss 279 00:27:26,140 --> 00:27:30,099 Oh. Which one were it? I weren't here 280 00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:33,819 I dunno. Doesn't really matter, does it, they're all the same, really, aren't they? 281 00:27:33,820 --> 00:27:37,539 They're not - They're all the same up North, aren't they? 282 00:27:37,540 --> 00:27:42,819 I don't drink, so I don't know - Good for you. Shirley, is it? 283 00:27:42,820 --> 00:27:45,979 Why don't you do a lucky dip, Shirley, and I'll have that one? 284 00:27:45,980 --> 00:27:52,980 Really? Shall I? Like a lucky dip? All right 285 00:27:56,580 --> 00:28:00,959 You - are - not - 'it' 286 00:28:01,460 --> 00:28:04,459 Could take quite some time 287 00:28:04,460 --> 00:28:08,516 Have I met you before, I'm thinking? - Me? How am I supposed to know? I do get about 288 00:28:08,540 --> 00:28:13,099 You - are - not - 'it' 289 00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:18,279 You - are - not - 'it'... It's Guinness - Oh, actually, I don't like Guinness 290 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:25,080 I meant any of the other ones. I thought you understood. I'll just have a pint of mild 291 00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:31,328 It's quite specific, isn't it, Guinness 292 00:28:31,620 --> 00:28:34,979 Yes, it's quite Irish, in't it 293 00:28:35,180 --> 00:28:38,579 It is, isn't it. I'd say nothing gets past you 294 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,799 You look more of a Babycham man, from where I'm standing 295 00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:43,339 I look more of a what man? 296 00:28:43,340 --> 00:28:47,859 A Babycham man. A man drinks Babycham - Leave off, Inspector 297 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,519 I don't know what that is, a Babycham man 298 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,499 It's like a fizzy wine what's got a reindeer on it 299 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,839 Or a normal deer, I can't remember 300 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,536 I wouldn't know anything about it. I'm not from around these parts, you see 301 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,199 Babycham's not from around these parts, is it? It's a Southern drink 302 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,679 Is it? - It is, aye 303 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,959 You seem to know a lot about it - I don't. You do 304 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,719 We've established I don't 305 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,759 You going to have any more peanuts with your mild, or have you had enough peanuts? 306 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,559 I've still got a couple left from before 307 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,239 Have ya? - Yeah. I saved a couple for emergencies 308 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,973 For peanut emergencies? 309 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,519 Yeah. In case I get trapped in a lift with a gorilla 310 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,199 Or a policeman - All right 311 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,479 Does that happen to you often? - Only when I'm in Wales 312 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,279 You want to stop going to Wales then 313 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,599 I know, but I keep getting drawn back. It's the gorillas, isn't it? 314 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,879 You wanna watch yourself, lad. We're not all friendly up North 315 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,239 I am! - she is 316 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,439 She's not everyone, is she? - She could be if she tried harder 317 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:49,319 That doesn't make any sense - Oh really. And how's your friend Phyllis? 318 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,139 Phyllis? Do you know Phyllis? 319 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,999 Phyllis? No. Phyllis Keane? No 320 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,159 You do. You know her name - All right, lad. Very good 321 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,719 Did you like that? Did you like how I made that turn, Officer? 322 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,319 We'll leave it at that then, shall we? - No more of this Babycham business then 323 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:10,320 I know only too well what Babycham is. I know all of its connotations. All right? 324 00:30:16,180 --> 00:30:18,979 Shirley, do you know of anyone renting rooms out around here? 325 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,479 Our mam used to rent rooms out, but then she stopped - Why, what happened? 326 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,799 Nothing happened, I don't think. She just stopped. Maybe people were getting too nosey 327 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,799 Aye. That were it - Nosey about what? 328 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,639 Well, me dad - What about your dad? 329 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,639 Well, he... nowt 330 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,119 Is he famous? - Not famous, no 331 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,319 He is - He's a famous hangman 332 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,959 Well, I'll be all right then, 'cos luckily I don't care about that sort of thing 333 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,159 I've never had that kind of prurience 334 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,559 I'll go have a chat with your mum, shall I? She's outside having a fag, isn't she? 335 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,519 Aye, she's having a fag outside - Yeah, I just said that 336 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,359 But... do you know Phyllis? - 'Do I know Phyllis?' 337 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,199 Well, does he? 338 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,039 Who were the chatty fella, Shirley? The new Babycham man? 339 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,079 No, just some fella, I think 340 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:13,439 It is a reindeer, in't it. He's right cute 341 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,639 I couldn't work out if he did know Phyllis or if he didn't know Phyllis 342 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,519 Phyllis were taken away today, Shirley. To a home. Happen he may've just overheard summat 343 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,079 Phyllis was? - Aye 344 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,679 Why? - I don't know, love 345 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,239 You do know 346 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,679 What kind of a home? - I don't know 347 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,879 You said a mental home earlier - I didn't say that. Her mam said that 348 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,159 Our mam knows? Why didn't she tell us? 349 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,759 Because your dad said you'd just go moping if they told ya 350 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,279 Christ... 351 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,839 Me dad said? - Aye 352 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,319 Aye what? I missed all this 353 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,239 Shirley's dad said Shirley was moody 354 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,599 And she'd just go around moping about this Phyllis Keane being put in a mental home, 355 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,399 was why no-one said owt to her about it 356 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,439 Oh. Girl talk 357 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,319 It's Phyllis Keane's dad who wants putting in mental home. Not Phyllis 358 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,439 Here's news, love! We might be taking in a lodger if his references pan out... 359 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,479 ...and your dad don't start mithering about house guests again 360 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,159 Oh aye, that's nice 361 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,799 What have you gone all mopey for? You were fine five minute since 362 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,919 I haven't gone all mopey 363 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,959 If that's a man who keeps his own counsel I'd love to meet a fella as never stops yakking 364 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,679 Got your quote, did ya? 365 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,839 Got me front page, mate. I'll be seeing ya 366 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,159 See ya, young lad... Who were that? 367 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,959 Newspaper lad - Everybody's new 368 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,639 You were in with him a while, Harry - We almost went home 369 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,559 I just needed to set the lad straight on a few matters, didn't I? 370 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,679 He's right about one thing, though. It is a momentous day 371 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,319 Well, I just hope you didn't lose the run of yourself, that's all 372 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:47,279 Oh just shut your bloody cakehole, woman, and charge these men's glasses, for Christ's sake 373 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,279 It's a momentous bloody day, in't it? 'Lose the run of meself... 374 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:57,599 And what have you gone all mopey for? You were fine five minute since 375 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,679 Oh, bloody teens! 376 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:06,079 Gentlemen? A toast... The End of Hanging 377 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,799 Well, I'm not toasting that 378 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,959 You bloody will, Bill, if you want to keep supping in this bar 379 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,839 The End of Hanging! 380 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:21,840 I won't know what to do with meself 381 00:33:33,940 --> 00:33:36,939 So your friend Bill said 'Hanging's too good for them', Harry 382 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,459 Bill's a customer, not a friend, and he's a daft customer at that 383 00:33:41,460 --> 00:33:45,539 Hanging's not too good for them, hanging's just right for them 384 00:33:45,540 --> 00:33:47,859 There are some fellas out there who are bad 'uns, 385 00:33:47,860 --> 00:33:50,179 and if the courts say they've got to go, they've got to go 386 00:33:50,180 --> 00:33:53,379 But if they've got to go, they've got to go by the quickest, the most dignified, 387 00:33:53,380 --> 00:33:56,099 and the least painful way of going as possible 388 00:33:56,100 --> 00:34:00,339 That, in my book, in most normal people's books, is hanging 389 00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:03,819 But how do you know, Harry? You haven't seen any of the other methods of execution, 390 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,639 the electric chair, or the firing squad... 391 00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:11,399 Of course I bloody haven't, I'm from Lancashire not Arkansas 392 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:18,600 'Electric bloody chair'... I'm told when that goes wrong they come out sizzling like a bloody steak. No thank you 393 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:24,239 I'll have my executions without the need for fried onions if it's all the same to you. Yank claptrap! 394 00:34:24,340 --> 00:34:26,139 Guillotine's quick, I'd wager 395 00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:32,119 Guillotine's quick but guillotine's messy and French 396 00:34:32,220 --> 00:34:34,319 Who'd go for that in Durham? No one 397 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,819 And who's going to clean up the mess after? Heads bouncing round 398 00:34:37,820 --> 00:34:43,259 I'm not going to clean it up after. Warders? They've enough on their plates, poor sods 399 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,679 So how many men have you hanged, Harry? Give me a rough estimate 400 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,359 I pride myself on never having deigned that question with an answer, Derek, 401 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,119 and I shall stick to that deigning 402 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,679 More than a hundred? - Loads more 403 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,999 More than a thousand? - Don't be daft, this in't China 404 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,999 More than Pierrepoint? 405 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,179 See, now you're trying to come the smartarse again, aren't ya, like before 406 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,799 Everybody knows Albert Pierrepoint did shitloads, 407 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,999 but Pierrepoint did a shitload of Germans both during and after the war, 408 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,719 so there should be a little bit of an asterisk against some of his numbers at the very least 409 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:21,799 Albert were doing fifteen to twenty of those bastards a day, after the trials got going proper, 410 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:27,759 and I'd've been happy to lend a hand, I would, but Pierrepoint had that entire scene sown up, didn't he? 411 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:33,359 He wouldn't let us get a look in edgeways, and I'd've been happy to hang some Germans 412 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:39,919 I'd've been chuffed. I never liked them before the war, let alone during. The accent alone... 413 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,679 Why weren't you asked, Harry? 414 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,199 I were asked the first time around, around Nuremburg, 415 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:51,039 but I were still a part-time bookie then and it coincided with Grand National Week so, y'know? 416 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,119 I probably should've gone 417 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,839 I fobbed them off, said the wife was poorly, and she probably was, she always is, 418 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,319 but they never called me back again after that, 419 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,959 'cos they're like that, they say nowt, but they hold things agin ya 420 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,359 I regret not going, I'd've liked to see a bit of Germany 421 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:15,079 All I'm saying though is, all them Nazis Pierrepoint did, all them bastards as ran the camps and whatnot, 422 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,759 I hold my hand up to him, I do. Good riddance to the lot of them, the swine 423 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:25,319 All I'm saying is, they shouldn't be allowed to go on his final score 424 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:32,320 'Cos hanging Germans en masse, well, it in't a hard job, is it? 425 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,759 They do what they're told, don't they, they follow orders 426 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,719 'Stand o'er there, under that noose.' 'All right, Sergeant Pierrepoint, owt else I can do for ya?' 427 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:45,239 'Nay lad, you're right.' Thunk! 428 00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:49,679 So if you subtracted Albert's Nazis from his normals, I'm not saying I'd win, 429 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,919 but we'd definitely be running neck and neck. If you'll pardon the expression 430 00:36:54,920 --> 00:37:00,639 It would be great for the paper if you gave me a number, Harry. How many have you done all in all? 431 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,159 I won't, lad. I've no comment 432 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,959 The low two hundreds? 433 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,159 Higher 434 00:37:06,260 --> 00:37:07,619 The low three hundreds? 435 00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:14,620 You were close enough first time, the mid two hundreds, but I'll leave it at that, the mid two hundreds 436 00:37:17,260 --> 00:37:21,419 Two hundred and thirty-three. Sans a single German 437 00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:25,219 Nice. Although they say Pierrepoint's runs into the six hundreds 438 00:37:25,220 --> 00:37:29,159 Who says? Pierrepoint's wife? Bollocks 439 00:37:29,260 --> 00:37:31,739 And his hair smelled - And whose hair smelled? 440 00:37:31,740 --> 00:37:35,819 Pierrepoint's hair smelled. They don't mention that in the papers, do they? 441 00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:37,179 What did it smell of? 442 00:37:37,180 --> 00:37:41,919 When I were in a mood I'd say it smelled of Death, 443 00:37:42,020 --> 00:37:47,499 but it were probably just stale Brylcreem - 'Stale Brylcreem' 444 00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:51,859 And, one final thing, Harry. The miscarriages of justice that've occurred over the last ten years... 445 00:37:51,860 --> 00:37:53,939 Oh, here we go, you had to spoil it 446 00:37:53,940 --> 00:37:56,259 The ones that have swayed public opinion against hanging... 447 00:37:56,260 --> 00:37:57,459 Says you 448 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,279 Were most of those carried out by you or by Pierrepoint? 449 00:38:01,580 --> 00:38:04,619 Oh... Pierrepoint. Definitely. I think 450 00:38:04,620 --> 00:38:07,319 Derek Bentley? - The retard? Pierrepoint 451 00:38:07,420 --> 00:38:08,859 Timothy Evans? 452 00:38:08,860 --> 00:38:13,319 The Christie lad? That was Pierrepoint, although I assisted, so technically that's 2-1 453 00:38:13,420 --> 00:38:14,779 Ruth Ellis? 454 00:38:14,780 --> 00:38:18,699 Pierrepoint. 3-1 . Pierrepoint never seemed to mind hanging women. I did 455 00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:23,899 I mean, you'd do it, it were the job, but it'd leave a nasty taste in your mouth weeks after 456 00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:25,819 James Hennessy? 457 00:38:25,820 --> 00:38:29,999 Hennessy weren't a miscarriage of justice. I read up about Hennessy after 458 00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:34,779 He were your classic woman-hating psychopath and I don't usually like commenting on the people I've hanged... 459 00:38:34,780 --> 00:38:37,599 ...but in his case sod him, bad rubbish, good riddance 460 00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:39,899 He died protesting his innocence, they say 461 00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:45,619 He were just scared, lad. They're all just scared. Some show it, some don't 462 00:38:45,620 --> 00:38:53,520 Mostly what I remember about Hennessy, he were very anti-Northern, and I don't like that. It's prejudice 463 00:38:54,580 --> 00:38:58,419 There was another woman attacked in Norfolk last year, out Lowestoft way, 464 00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:01,739 the police are saying bore a lot of the hallmarks of the Hennessy killing 465 00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:08,619 There'll always be women attacked, lad. It's just the nature of men, in't it? 466 00:39:08,620 --> 00:39:12,219 In Lowestoft especially, there's nowt else to do 467 00:39:12,220 --> 00:39:16,979 You soon get bored of miniature golf 468 00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:21,179 So are you saying, then, that the death penalty never worked as a deterrent, Harry? 469 00:39:21,180 --> 00:39:25,139 Aha! Good one, ya little bastard 470 00:39:25,140 --> 00:39:26,979 I'll tell ya this, any road, 471 00:39:26,980 --> 00:39:31,019 Hennessy never killed anybody after I got ahold of him. You can be sure of that 472 00:39:31,020 --> 00:39:34,219 Maybe he never killed anybody before you got ahold of him? 473 00:39:34,220 --> 00:39:41,220 And maybe we'll never know. Boo hoo. Another pint, lad? 474 00:40:27,420 --> 00:40:31,420 Oh, Harry... 475 00:40:48,060 --> 00:40:56,060 I wasn't poorly around Nuremburg. I'm never poorly. You just wanted a pissup at Aintree with your mates 476 00:40:59,220 --> 00:41:04,919 They're our friends now, the Germans 477 00:41:05,020 --> 00:41:13,020 'Lowestoft'... You don't know the first thing about Lowestoft. You don't know the first thing about nowt 478 00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:23,000 And there weren't nowt wrong with Albert Pierrepoint's hair. He had nice hair. Unlike yours 479 00:41:27,460 --> 00:41:34,460 He's lost the run of himself. I knew he would 480 00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:38,379 Morning, our Shirley 481 00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:44,379 I says 'Morning, our Shirley' - Morning. Do mental homes have visiting hours? 482 00:41:44,380 --> 00:41:47,699 You can get mental-home-visiting out of your head for a start-off 483 00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:51,499 I thought we heard the end of this Phyllis Keane palaver last night 484 00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:55,759 I wouldn't let you go to Burnley on your own, let alone to a Burnley mental home 485 00:41:55,860 --> 00:42:02,619 She'll be all on her own with nutters - Oh aye. Sounds like me at opening time 486 00:42:02,620 --> 00:42:09,039 Your dad's lost run of himself in paper. I knew he would 487 00:42:09,140 --> 00:42:13,319 Won't hurt business, though, the likes of folks round here 488 00:42:13,420 --> 00:42:20,820 Probably help business. They'd pay to watch a car-crash if you could slow one down. They're just morbid 489 00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:28,419 'Two hundred and thirty-three'... 490 00:42:28,620 --> 00:42:32,639 I'd stop you reading it if I didn't think you'd get ahold of it one way or t'other 491 00:42:32,740 --> 00:42:37,519 I don't want to read it, do I? I don't care - You'd care if it were Elvis Presley 492 00:42:37,620 --> 00:42:42,659 Wouldn't be Elvis Presley though, would it? Elvis Presley don't hang folk 493 00:42:42,660 --> 00:42:47,039 Elvis Presley don't say people are moody and mopey behind their back neither 494 00:42:47,140 --> 00:42:49,339 Oh, we're not still on this, are we? 495 00:42:49,340 --> 00:42:54,719 He didn't say it behind your back, did he? You were standing right there... in a mood 496 00:42:54,820 --> 00:43:02,120 I weren't in a mood. I'm never in a mood. You're always saying I'm in a mood. I'm just shy 497 00:43:02,620 --> 00:43:05,159 Well, how is 'shy' going to help you in life? 498 00:43:05,260 --> 00:43:11,679 Well, it's not, is it, but I can't help it, can I? - But shy... It's just the same as mopey, shy 499 00:43:11,780 --> 00:43:17,259 It's not the same as mopey. I smile. Mopey don't smile 500 00:43:17,260 --> 00:43:18,939 It's just the same as boring, shy 501 00:43:18,940 --> 00:43:24,159 It isn't. I'm not boring. It just depends who's on the outside, looking in 502 00:43:24,260 --> 00:43:26,779 Well, the people who are on the outside looking in around here... 503 00:43:26,780 --> 00:43:29,219 Think I'm boring - No. Think you're a mope 504 00:43:29,220 --> 00:43:34,299 Well, maybe I think they're boring too - Well... maybe you'd be right 505 00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:36,859 Maybe I think you and Dad are boring an' all 506 00:43:36,860 --> 00:43:41,179 Don't be stupid. We're not boring. I run a pub and he's chief hangman 507 00:43:41,180 --> 00:43:46,519 That in't boring, that's interesting. Meals on wheels for the depressed, that's boring 508 00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:50,559 He were chief hangman yesterday. He in't nowt today 509 00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:58,160 He'll be chief hangman for a long while yet, you mark my words. In his own mind if nowhere else 510 00:44:11,740 --> 00:44:18,039 Listen, love, I know you've started taking an interest in fellas... 511 00:44:18,140 --> 00:44:20,219 I haven't! Where's this come from? 512 00:44:20,220 --> 00:44:23,599 All those music magazines you go moping over - gawking over... 513 00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:25,299 I don't mope, Mam! 514 00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:30,959 Boys aren't interested in mopey girls, or shy girls. Or, if they are, 515 00:44:31,060 --> 00:44:37,839 they're interested in mopey girls who are drop-dead gorgeous, so they can put the mopey to one side 516 00:44:37,940 --> 00:44:40,842 But I'm pretty on the inside, Mam 517 00:44:41,042 --> 00:44:43,390 But you're not though, love 518 00:44:44,112 --> 00:44:51,716 You're moody on the inside and mopey on the outside. No boy wants that combo. So think on 519 00:44:51,993 --> 00:44:54,899 Think on, what? A frontal lobotomy? 520 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,921 That wouldn’t work with you. You’re too pig-headed. 521 00:44:58,820 --> 00:45:05,233 No, maybe there's some after-school courses you could take on, might take you out of yourself 522 00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:10,719 Archery or badminton. Summat as would get you moving 523 00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:15,519 I think you're pretty on the inside, love, you're my little girl, aren't ya? 524 00:45:15,620 --> 00:45:21,319 I think you're pretty on the outside too. It's just others 525 00:45:21,420 --> 00:45:25,079 Oh, who the bloody hell's that when we're having a heart-to-heart? 526 00:45:25,180 --> 00:45:28,407 And me in me blooming dressing gown. You get it, Shirley 527 00:45:28,460 --> 00:45:32,419 I'm not getting it. I'm shy. I don't get doors 528 00:45:32,699 --> 00:45:34,639 You get doors when it suits 529 00:45:34,740 --> 00:45:40,238 It's in the shy charter. No door-getting. I'll mope over here 530 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,719 Oh, hello, Mr Mooney. What are you doing here at this hour? 531 00:45:56,820 --> 00:46:00,019 Well I've come with my references and for that chat you wanted 532 00:46:00,020 --> 00:46:04,239 But it's nine in the morning, love - I know. Shows I'm keen, don't it? 533 00:46:04,340 --> 00:46:07,239 Hello there again from yesterday - Hello there again 534 00:46:07,340 --> 00:46:08,959 I thought we'd said the afternoon 535 00:46:09,060 --> 00:46:13,999 No, no. The afternoon wasn't mentioned. No, no. That's why I'm here now 536 00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:17,999 Oh. I'd best go put something on then. Can't be chatting in me dressing gown, can I? 537 00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:21,659 Well, that's up to you, isn't it? - Well... I can't 538 00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:26,339 Shirley, will you get Mr Mooney a cup of tea if he wants one while I pop upstairs 539 00:46:26,340 --> 00:46:28,219 These are your references, are they? 540 00:46:28,220 --> 00:46:32,579 Yes. They're all typed up perfect, look. Margins. You've got to, these days 541 00:46:32,580 --> 00:46:35,679 Right, I'll bring them with me, have a peruse 542 00:46:35,780 --> 00:46:39,159 You'll bring them with you, will you? You'll bring them with you upstairs, will you? 543 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,799 Yes, if that's all right? 544 00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:49,900 That's all right 545 00:47:03,780 --> 00:47:06,899 This is the table I was sitting at yesterday 546 00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:13,900 Yes. That's like your regular table now, in't it? - It was... 547 00:47:17,540 --> 00:47:21,739 I've changed it. I like to shake things up 548 00:47:21,740 --> 00:47:28,740 Keeps people on their toes, y'know? - Aye 549 00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:35,219 Milk and sugar, Mr Mooney? - Peter 550 00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:39,099 Milk and sugar, Peter? - No, I don't drink tea 551 00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:43,259 No, your mum said I did, but I don't. You can have it if you want. I don't want it 552 00:47:43,260 --> 00:47:49,559 Well... I shall! 553 00:47:50,060 --> 00:47:56,560 And two sugars. Even though I shouldn't 554 00:48:10,540 --> 00:48:15,159 You're quite a shy girl, aren't you? 555 00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:17,439 What? - Yes. I noticed that yesterday 556 00:48:17,540 --> 00:48:21,159 Well... I'm not as shy as some - I can't hear you 557 00:48:21,260 --> 00:48:24,359 I said I'm not as shy as some - Oh no? Like who? 558 00:48:24,460 --> 00:48:26,959 Like who aren't you as shy as? 559 00:48:27,060 --> 00:48:29,439 Well, I don't know. All sorts 560 00:48:29,540 --> 00:48:31,039 Footballers? 561 00:48:31,140 --> 00:48:38,140 Well, I'm shyer than footballers 562 00:48:43,940 --> 00:48:49,299 Nuns? - Nuns? 563 00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:53,919 I'd say some nuns are shyer than me. It depends on the nun, don't it? 564 00:48:54,020 --> 00:48:57,699 Yes. The new nuns, just starting out, who don't know the ropes... 565 00:48:57,700 --> 00:49:04,700 Yes, I'd say I'm not as shy as them nuns. Not half as shy 566 00:49:11,140 --> 00:49:15,939 Paraplegics? 567 00:49:15,940 --> 00:49:21,619 I suppose it depends on if they were shy before they had their accident, doesn't it? 568 00:49:21,620 --> 00:49:28,620 Yes, good point. Or if they were born that way and there was no accident 569 00:49:29,820 --> 00:49:36,099 Some paraplegics can be right grumpy pigs 570 00:49:36,500 --> 00:49:39,979 But then you would be 571 00:49:39,980 --> 00:49:44,539 I don't know what I'd do if I was a paraplegic 572 00:49:44,740 --> 00:49:49,259 Nothing, probably 573 00:49:50,060 --> 00:49:55,499 I'd say, if it were a mute paraplegic, I reckon I'd be less shy than him 574 00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:59,399 Or her, if he were a girl mute paraplegic 575 00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:03,419 You're quite funny - Am I? I'm not 576 00:50:03,420 --> 00:50:05,939 You are. I noticed that yesterday - Did ya? 577 00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:10,319 I suppose certain people round here, it just goes over their heads, your sense of humour 578 00:50:10,420 --> 00:50:13,259 I don't know about that. But maybe 579 00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:16,859 Oh there's no maybe about it. It's just hard to come across as funny, isn't it, 580 00:50:16,860 --> 00:50:20,959 when you're surrounded by stupid thicks. I've always found, anyway 581 00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:26,819 That said, although I appreciate a good sense of humour, I don't actually come across as funny myself 582 00:50:26,820 --> 00:50:29,139 I think you... - Shush 583 00:50:29,140 --> 00:50:33,899 Even when I try to be funny, I come across more as menacing 584 00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:36,419 Which is ridiculous, because I'm nice 585 00:50:36,420 --> 00:50:40,779 But no, as hard as I try, menacing. And then the label sticks, doesn't it? 586 00:50:40,780 --> 00:50:43,099 I think you come across as funny 587 00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:47,299 Do you? Not menacing? Not even with that 'shush' I just gave you? 588 00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:52,899 No. I think you come across as funny, but different 589 00:50:52,900 --> 00:50:59,339 Funny but different... like Groucho Marx 590 00:50:59,340 --> 00:51:01,659 I don't know. I don't really know the old ones 591 00:51:01,660 --> 00:51:05,139 He was a Jew, but you couldn't really tell 592 00:51:05,140 --> 00:51:07,779 Was he the one with the moustache? - Yes 593 00:51:07,780 --> 00:51:12,539 Right. I know who you mean 594 00:51:12,540 --> 00:51:16,939 How old are you anyway? - Fifteen 595 00:51:16,940 --> 00:51:19,739 A lovely age 596 00:51:19,740 --> 00:51:21,739 It ain't - Ain't it? 597 00:51:21,740 --> 00:51:25,539 Everybody just keeps having a go at ya, and you're not allowed to do nowt 598 00:51:25,540 --> 00:51:28,139 Well, don't let them have a go at you then 599 00:51:28,140 --> 00:51:35,140 I know, but it's hard, in't it, when they're all bigger 600 00:51:55,980 --> 00:52:03,480 I hope my mam lets you have the room. That's all I can say. You'd liven the place up 601 00:52:06,060 --> 00:52:11,579 Bloody nose is full of bloody... mucus now, from that crying 602 00:52:11,580 --> 00:52:15,259 Well, yeah, I don't need to know that 603 00:52:15,260 --> 00:52:18,099 But d'you know what I couldn't fathom out from yesterday? 604 00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:20,659 No, what couldn't you fathom out from yesterday? 605 00:52:20,660 --> 00:52:26,499 Do you know Phyllis Keane or don't ya? - Phyllis Keane? No, I don't, actually, no 606 00:52:26,500 --> 00:52:29,099 I thought not, cos I was sure she'd've mentioned ya 607 00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:34,099 No. I just thought they all seemed to be ganging up on you, so I didn't want you to feel so all alone 608 00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:40,900 They were all ganging up on me. The bastards 609 00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:43,539 Poor Phyllis 610 00:52:43,540 --> 00:52:47,676 I know. I'm sitting here crying even though there's nothing really wrong, 611 00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:54,100 and she's sitting in a mental home for reading car number plates out loud. It in't fair, is it? 612 00:52:54,700 --> 00:52:57,156 Why don't you go visit her? Cheer yourselves up 613 00:52:57,180 --> 00:53:02,916 I were thinking that, but I don't know how it works with the visiting hours and it's miles 614 00:53:02,940 --> 00:53:04,540 I'll drive ya 615 00:53:04,660 --> 00:53:08,860 Will ya? Would ya? - If you want. I don't care, do I? 616 00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:10,379 But what if they're closed? 617 00:53:10,380 --> 00:53:13,579 If they're closed they're closed. We can't do anything about it if they're closed 618 00:53:13,580 --> 00:53:18,859 Well, we could pop to the seaside then try again later, I suppose. It depends on if it's sunny, doesn't it? 619 00:53:18,860 --> 00:53:24,519 I don't know - Suit yourself 620 00:53:25,820 --> 00:53:30,579 What kind of car have ya? - A Morris Minor. It's a banger, but it'll get you there 621 00:53:30,580 --> 00:53:36,419 I gave it a turtle wax last week. I didn't have to, I just felt like it. Where's her mental home, Burnley? 622 00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:40,779 Burnley, aye, it's not too far. It's far on a bus, but not far in a car 623 00:53:40,780 --> 00:53:45,139 Where's the nearest seaside to Burnley? - I don't know. Formby? 624 00:53:45,140 --> 00:53:49,619 Do you have a swimsuit? 625 00:53:49,620 --> 00:53:51,659 Maybe - What colour is it? 626 00:53:51,660 --> 00:53:58,419 Yellow. With dots - Yes... that would go well with your hair-cclouring 627 00:53:58,420 --> 00:54:02,819 Would it? - Yes 628 00:54:02,820 --> 00:54:05,819 Does the sand go in your swimsuit, when you're sitting on the sand... 629 00:54:05,820 --> 00:54:09,619 ...down at Formby, or Walton-On-The-Naze, or wherever? 630 00:54:09,820 --> 00:54:13,299 The sand? - Yes 631 00:54:13,473 --> 00:54:17,621 I usually get a deckchair - Do you? A deckchair? 632 00:54:17,804 --> 00:54:21,191 Aye. They're only cheap - I see 633 00:54:23,220 --> 00:54:27,799 But the times when you don't get a deckchair, and you're sitting on the sand, 634 00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:31,119 does the sand go in your swimsuit then? In those places I was getting at before 635 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:38,820 Well, I've never been to Walton-On-The-Naze. Or anywhere in Norfolk. Is it Norfolk? 636 00:54:40,620 --> 00:54:43,179 Maybe - Aye. I've never been 637 00:54:43,180 --> 00:54:45,619 How comes? Too Fancy O'Reilly? 638 00:54:45,620 --> 00:54:50,379 Well, no, you go wherever your mam and dad take you, don't you, when you're fifteen 639 00:54:50,380 --> 00:54:52,579 I don't. I choose not to 640 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,759 But you're not fifteen, Peter 641 00:54:54,960 --> 00:55:01,960 Aren't I? No, of course I'm not, am I? I was just trying to confuse you 642 00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:09,339 I've been to Walton-On-The-Naze. I've been there many times 643 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:16,340 I don't even know what a Naze is, but I've been to Walton on it 644 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,359 I think it's like a curved headland. Although I'm not sure 645 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,656 Well I don't even know what a headland is. I suppose that makes me dense 646 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:27,080 No. If you didn't know what a curve was, that'd make you dense 647 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:33,099 There's that sense of humour I pointed out before 648 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:39,700 A curve, it's just a thing that goes like this, isn't it 649 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,979 Your mum takes a lot of time to put her clothes on, doesn't she? 650 00:55:56,070 --> 00:55:57,469 Aye. - Oh, does she? 651 00:55:57,564 --> 00:56:00,000 What? - Take a lot of time to put her clothes on. 652 00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:02,265 I don't know. I suppose 653 00:56:05,260 --> 00:56:09,059 Well, if you still want to see Phyllis, and the seaside or whatever, 654 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,699 why don't you meet me under the clock at the train station at eleven, 655 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,879 after I'm finished chatting with your mum? 656 00:56:14,980 --> 00:56:19,999 I don't know, Mr Mooney. I don't know 657 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:25,899 Phyllis'll be missing you by now. All those mad people, screaming their heads off 658 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:33,700 I just don't know. I'm shy about these types of things. I've never been out with a boy before 659 00:56:34,020 --> 00:56:40,119 Well it's not going out, is it, I was just going to take you to a mental home. It's hardly tea at the Ritz 660 00:56:40,220 --> 00:56:44,739 Although I think I put you off a bit, didn't I, with my talk about the sand and your swimsuit, 661 00:56:44,740 --> 00:56:51,740 I can see that now, I can see how that might've sounded strange 662 00:56:52,180 --> 00:56:59,180 I'm just interested in sand 663 00:57:00,220 --> 00:57:03,939 That's where I'll be, anyway. The clock at the train station 664 00:57:03,940 --> 00:57:10,359 All right. I'll have a think about it - I just get flustered sometimes because I'm shy 665 00:57:10,460 --> 00:57:12,659 Are ya? 666 00:57:12,860 --> 00:57:18,860 What time at the train station, did you say again? - Eleven 667 00:57:27,980 --> 00:57:34,980 'Shy'... Fuck me 668 00:57:40,700 --> 00:57:44,999 I took ages, didn't I? 669 00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:46,979 Oh, is Shirley not with you? 670 00:57:46,980 --> 00:57:49,659 She was with me, but then she left - Of course she did 671 00:57:49,660 --> 00:57:54,339 Well, I can see you didn't pinch anything from behind the bar, so that's a good sign for a start off 672 00:57:54,340 --> 00:57:58,499 Now, I couldn't get through on any of the phone numbers you gave me, that's why I took so long 673 00:57:58,500 --> 00:58:01,499 They just rang and rang, but I shall try them again later 674 00:58:01,500 --> 00:58:05,979 You rang them already, did you? - I did, but as I say, they just rang and rang 675 00:58:05,980 --> 00:58:11,019 That was very speedy of you - Like as not they hadn't got into the office as yet 676 00:58:11,020 --> 00:58:16,819 That was very thorough. That was very sneaky, phoning up my references behind my back... 677 00:58:16,820 --> 00:58:19,379 ...while I'm standing down here waiting like a lemon 678 00:58:19,380 --> 00:58:23,539 But I'm allowed to phone your references, Mr Mooney. That's what they're for, references 679 00:58:23,540 --> 00:58:27,939 Yes, I understand that. But the timing was very sneaky, wasn't it? 680 00:58:27,940 --> 00:58:32,699 Well... I have to say, I'm a bit perplexed - Perplexed, are you? 681 00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:34,499 Well, be perplexed - Well, I am 682 00:58:34,500 --> 00:58:38,219 Yeah, no, I don't want the room now. No, I don't even want to look at it. Even if you apologized 683 00:58:38,220 --> 00:58:45,220 Phoning my references? Your husband's killed two hundred fucking people! Where's his fucking references? 684 00:58:48,860 --> 00:58:51,939 What the bloody hell was that? 685 00:58:51,940 --> 00:58:58,559 I don't know. I'm shaken, Harry. I'm quite shaken 686 00:58:58,660 --> 00:59:04,879 It was the lodger fella. He were standing there normal, then he just flipped 687 00:59:04,980 --> 00:59:10,439 Lodgers? They're just animals, Alice, I've told you that before. Oh, is that the paper? 688 00:59:10,540 --> 00:59:15,599 Why shouldn't I've phoned his references? It's what you do with references, in't it? Phone 'em 689 00:59:15,700 --> 00:59:20,499 Maybe they do it different down South, but I can't see how 690 00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:24,299 I only wanted to find out if he were as lovely as he seemed 691 00:59:24,300 --> 00:59:31,300 I'm not sure if I'd've wanted him around our Shirley now, a fella who could turn that quick 692 00:59:32,020 --> 00:59:35,679 I'm perplexed, honestly I am 693 00:59:35,780 --> 00:59:42,679 Hardly matters what the interview says when the photograph's that good, does it? 694 00:59:42,780 --> 00:59:49,680 But I like the way it's reading so far. Albert bloody Pierrepoint. Take that, ya bastard! 695 01:00:15,980 --> 01:00:19,499 All I'm saying is, from a non-biased point of view, 696 01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:25,039 that is the greatest interview I've seen printed in that newspaper in my entire life 697 01:00:25,140 --> 01:00:28,099 In any newspaper - In any newspaper 698 01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:32,099 I'm too close to it, aren't I, so I can't say 699 01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:37,599 I'm just at start of it 'cos I left me glasses at home, so don't spoil it by saying owt 700 01:00:37,700 --> 01:00:41,019 There's nothing to spoil, Arthur. It's an interview, lad 701 01:00:41,020 --> 01:00:45,179 That said, it does get better as it goes on, so you don't want to spoil it in that sense, y'know? 702 01:00:45,180 --> 01:00:48,219 My favourite bit was bit about the Germans - Mine too 703 01:00:48,220 --> 01:00:51,419 'Cos they are swine. Always were 704 01:00:51,420 --> 01:00:55,659 My other favourite bit was you saying your Alice was sick so's you could go t' Grand National 705 01:00:55,660 --> 01:00:58,599 My favourite bit were bit about hanging's too good for 'em, because it is 706 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:03,699 Yeah, I never said that, Bill. I said you said that, and I said it were stupid 707 01:01:03,700 --> 01:01:06,619 And my other favourite bit were... 708 01:01:06,620 --> 01:01:09,859 D'you know, I never realized Albert Pierrepoint were such a cock 709 01:01:09,860 --> 01:01:14,939 Cock's too harsh, Bill. Cock's too harsh 710 01:01:14,940 --> 01:01:20,059 Arrogant. Tight-fisted. Curmudgeonly. Mean. But cock's too harsh 711 01:01:20,060 --> 01:01:25,139 What were your favourite bit, Inspector? - He liked photo! 'Cos he's queer 712 01:01:25,140 --> 01:01:29,019 Are you starting again, Bill? Do you want to be shown outside? 713 01:01:29,020 --> 01:01:33,299 Then calm bloody down, and ease up on your drinking. It's only two in the bloody afternoon 714 01:01:33,300 --> 01:01:34,819 Sorry, Harry 715 01:01:34,820 --> 01:01:36,739 Inspector. The floor is yours - What floor? 716 01:01:36,740 --> 01:01:39,619 What was your favourite bit? 'What floor?' 717 01:01:39,620 --> 01:01:46,620 Oh. Aye. No... as I say, you made your case well about, y'know, hanging being the most dignified of the... 718 01:01:46,700 --> 01:01:49,219 Well, it is - It's pure dignified 719 01:01:49,220 --> 01:01:53,859 There speaks... In vino verantas, from the lads 720 01:01:53,860 --> 01:01:57,299 Other ones, you come out like fried steak - You do, though 721 01:01:57,300 --> 01:02:03,899 I'm just on't fried steak bit now. It's good. Onions! 722 01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:10,900 But, overall, I just think you went a bit far, that's all 723 01:02:13,860 --> 01:02:19,379 I mean, nobody needs to know numbers, do they? 724 01:02:19,380 --> 01:02:23,619 Or what was said int' death cell, or who were scared or who weren't scared 725 01:02:23,620 --> 01:02:30,620 Some things ought remain, I don't know, sacrosanct or summat 726 01:02:30,980 --> 01:02:33,099 Well... I agree, don't I? 727 01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:37,819 It says in black and white I refused to deign to give him a number, doesn't it, at start? 728 01:02:37,820 --> 01:02:43,659 It does, at start, aye. Later it says two hundred and thirty-three 729 01:02:43,660 --> 01:02:46,099 He wormed it out of you, didn't he, Harry? - He wormed it out of me, that's right 730 01:02:46,100 --> 01:02:47,779 The bastard! 731 01:02:47,780 --> 01:02:51,699 I know. That's what lad's like... That's why I said you shouldn't've talked to him int' first place 732 01:02:51,700 --> 01:02:57,299 By, you're in a funny mood today, George. Just because you're not int' paper, were it? 733 01:02:57,300 --> 01:02:59,099 No. I don't like being int' paper 734 01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:01,699 You do - I don't. It interferes with me job 735 01:03:01,700 --> 01:03:08,700 Oh aye, and what time are you due into the office today, Inspector? 736 01:03:13,420 --> 01:03:15,099 His job, eh! 737 01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:16,499 What were it? 738 01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:18,619 Harry says to Inspector 'What time are ya due int' office?' 739 01:03:18,620 --> 01:03:21,859 Inspector looks at his watch, he looks at his pint, he says... 740 01:03:21,860 --> 01:03:25,619 Aye. He drinks too much 741 01:03:25,620 --> 01:03:30,019 No. No, not 'he drinks too much', Arthur 742 01:03:30,020 --> 01:03:32,939 More he's in here when he should be at work, like, that's all 743 01:03:32,940 --> 01:03:34,579 Oh, I see 744 01:03:34,580 --> 01:03:36,219 Is there still no sign? 745 01:03:36,220 --> 01:03:39,099 No sign of what? - No sign of our Shirley 746 01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:43,499 I'd've said if there'd been a bloody sign, wouldn't I? I'd've shouted up 'Mope's back!' 747 01:03:43,500 --> 01:03:48,019 But she's never missed her dinnertime without telling us, and I've done us a blancmange for after 748 01:03:48,020 --> 01:03:51,019 Oh, she's probably just gone off moping somewheres. Found somewheres new to mope 749 01:03:51,020 --> 01:03:57,259 Aye, she was a bit mopey this morning, wasn't she? Hello, lads 750 01:03:57,260 --> 01:03:58,899 Howdo! 751 01:03:58,900 --> 01:04:03,379 Here, that's your Syd, in't it? Hello Syd - Hello Alice! Hello Harry! 752 01:04:03,380 --> 01:04:07,019 He in't mySyd - We haven't seen you in a coon's age, Syd 753 01:04:07,020 --> 01:04:09,019 No, well, I'm mostly Halifax, aren't I? 754 01:04:09,020 --> 01:04:11,379 Hello Inspector, lads - Hello, lad 755 01:04:11,380 --> 01:04:15,899 Where do I know Syd from? I'm terrible with faces. Bad trait in a policeman 756 01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:22,259 No, people often forget my face and that. I used to be an assistant of Harry's, back in the day 757 01:04:22,260 --> 01:04:26,699 His main assistant, really - No, you were right the first time 758 01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:30,379 Pull up a chair, lad. Have yourself a pint - I'll have a half, so 759 01:04:30,380 --> 01:04:35,259 I'll be upstairs, Harry, in case she calls - In case who...? Oh, aye, aye 760 01:04:35,260 --> 01:04:38,499 Nice to see you, Syd - You too, Alice 761 01:04:38,500 --> 01:04:40,819 Wish I could say same 762 01:04:40,820 --> 01:04:43,499 Oh. Why? - Aye, why? 763 01:04:43,500 --> 01:04:49,699 I shall keep my own counsel, as they say. Here's your half, lad 764 01:04:49,700 --> 01:04:56,019 That's fourpence 765 01:04:56,020 --> 01:05:01,499 Cheers. Good health, lads - Aye, cheers 766 01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:05,699 Er... Harry, would it be possible to have a quiet word at some point? 767 01:05:05,700 --> 01:05:12,700 I'm run off me feet, lad, you can see that. It's a pub, not a sewing circle 768 01:05:13,580 --> 01:05:19,539 And what drags you all the way down from Halifax the one day I'm all over the newspapers, I wonder? 769 01:05:19,540 --> 01:05:21,339 The newspapers? Are ya? Which ones? 770 01:05:21,340 --> 01:05:22,819 Well, the Gazette 771 01:05:22,820 --> 01:05:24,219 He is - It's there 772 01:05:24,220 --> 01:05:25,779 I haven't seen. Is it good? 773 01:05:25,780 --> 01:05:28,419 It's brilliant - I haven't finished it yet but it's good so far 774 01:05:28,420 --> 01:05:32,979 I must have a read of it after - If you like, although you can buy your own 775 01:05:32,980 --> 01:05:39,019 Aye, Syd used be me assistant in the hanging trade, a few years back this is, 776 01:05:39,020 --> 01:05:44,779 but after a series of mistakes and minor misdemeanours, what finally broke the camel's back, 777 01:05:44,780 --> 01:05:48,139 what finally caused me to have to let him go... - You don't have to, do you, Harry? 778 01:05:48,140 --> 01:05:50,639 What finally put the kibosh on his assistant hanging career... 779 01:05:50,740 --> 01:05:57,740 ...were his commenting upon, and his laughing at, the size of the private parts... 780 01:05:57,820 --> 01:06:03,599 ...of a Manchester gangster we were cleaning up the body of after hanging him at Winson Green 781 01:06:03,700 --> 01:06:10,700 Dignity and the basics of human respect were all we owed that lad at that sad time, 782 01:06:11,060 --> 01:06:15,059 and did he get them? Off this lad? Did he bugger! 783 01:06:15,060 --> 01:06:19,579 Aye, and I knew it were wrong, Harry, and I apologised at the time, didn't I? 784 01:06:19,580 --> 01:06:26,499 It's just... and I'll say it again... it were enormous! 785 01:06:26,500 --> 01:06:29,019 What were it? - Enormous! 786 01:06:29,020 --> 01:06:31,619 In't funny! In't funny at all!... Weren't then! In't now! 787 01:06:31,620 --> 01:06:36,499 But I didn't mean nothing by it, did I? I were just surprised by it 788 01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:41,539 I expect more from you... on the subject of 'sacrosanct' 789 01:06:41,540 --> 01:06:45,259 Weren't just long, it were wide 790 01:06:45,260 --> 01:06:48,859 Have you finished? 791 01:06:48,860 --> 01:06:51,739 'It were wide'... 792 01:06:51,740 --> 01:06:55,459 A year later, in an incident not entirely unrelated, 793 01:06:55,460 --> 01:07:01,439 he were sent to Leeds Prison six month for the sale and distribution of obscene magazines, weren't ya, Syd? 794 01:07:01,540 --> 01:07:07,459 It were unrelated! How were it related? Them were fannies, not cocks! I wouldn't distribute cocks 795 01:07:07,460 --> 01:07:12,659 And they were legal in Holland, them fannies! H-H-How were I supposed to know? 796 01:07:12,660 --> 01:07:18,179 Any road, that's the nature of the character of me assistant Syd Armfield 797 01:07:18,180 --> 01:07:22,459 Now, a quiet word, were it, S-S-Syd? - You go too far, Harry 798 01:07:22,460 --> 01:07:28,799 I say 'S-S-Syd' 'cos he used to have a stutter when he got stressed, didn't ya, S-S-Syd? You probably still do 799 01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:32,739 I don't know if I should tell ya now. I-I-I came here to help ya 800 01:07:32,740 --> 01:07:35,179 I thought that cock were water under a bridge 801 01:07:35,180 --> 01:07:40,179 Calm down, lad, I were only having a laugh, weren't I? Now what were it you were after? 802 01:07:40,180 --> 01:07:44,019 I'm not after nowt, am I? I came here to be nice, didn't I? 803 01:07:44,020 --> 01:07:48,299 I didn't expect to have cocks thrown in me face 804 01:07:48,300 --> 01:07:53,259 Calm down you about cocks! 805 01:07:53,260 --> 01:07:55,779 Come o'er here 806 01:07:55,780 --> 01:08:00,619 Sit down 807 01:08:02,620 --> 01:08:07,179 Sip your half 808 01:08:07,380 --> 01:08:09,899 Now, what's on your mind? 809 01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:13,059 Well, it's this Hennessy business, in't it? - Hennessy business? What Hennessy business? 810 01:08:13,060 --> 01:08:15,259 Well, I-I-I... - Oh, here we go 811 01:08:15,260 --> 01:08:21,779 I didn't think about it much at the time. I didn't think about it for a year after, the Hennessy hanging 812 01:08:21,780 --> 01:08:25,059 I mean, it were a bit of a balls-up but it weren't botched, were it? 813 01:08:25,060 --> 01:08:29,619 It weren't near botched. It were instant death once we got him ont' trap. Folk forget that 814 01:08:29,620 --> 01:08:36,620 But, I suppose, him having so much time to talk... to protest, I suppose, and to threaten us, y'know? 815 01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:42,379 Well, it went beyond the usual frightened, didn't it? - No. It went exactly the normal frightened 816 01:08:42,380 --> 01:08:49,019 In the years after, I thought, I couldn't help but think... he weren't frightened. He were innocent 817 01:08:49,020 --> 01:08:52,859 Oh, here we go! Is this what this is? All the way from Halifax for this shite? 818 01:08:52,860 --> 01:08:55,419 And if he were innocent, we hung an innocent man, didn't we? 819 01:08:55,420 --> 01:09:02,420 'Hanged' an innocent man! 'Hanged' an innocent man! And, no, we didn't hang an innocent man 820 01:09:02,860 --> 01:09:07,139 I went and read every court report on the bloody case after, just to set me mind at rest 821 01:09:07,140 --> 01:09:09,899 He was guilty as sin, that perve 822 01:09:09,900 --> 01:09:15,339 He were a car thief, Harry. He never had anything funny with women his entire life 823 01:09:15,340 --> 01:09:17,659 Well, you've got to start somewhere, don't ya? 824 01:09:17,660 --> 01:09:21,739 But he were up in Blackpool the night before, a tart signed an affidavit... 825 01:09:21,740 --> 01:09:23,899 'A tart signed an affidavit', by heck 826 01:09:23,900 --> 01:09:27,699 ...saying he were with her all night and he treated her nice 827 01:09:27,700 --> 01:09:34,379 Why would he drive three hundred miles next day to do that to a girl on a beach in Norfolk? 828 01:09:34,380 --> 01:09:38,459 Let's reopen the case, we've evidence from a tart! 829 01:09:38,460 --> 01:09:44,539 I don't know why he did it, do I? Maybe he fancied a nice drive? Perverts like driving too, y'know 830 01:09:44,540 --> 01:09:48,979 A lass were attacked in Lowestoft a year to the day that we hanged him 831 01:09:48,980 --> 01:09:53,699 Oh, Lowestoft, Jesus - A year to the day, Harry 832 01:09:53,700 --> 01:09:59,379 She survived. She described the fella who did it - Oh aye? 833 01:09:59,380 --> 01:10:04,459 She said he looked just like this fella I were visited by this Saturday past 834 01:10:04,460 --> 01:10:10,499 I don't know how he found me, but he said he had some photos he'd took, he asked me if I wanted to buy 'em 835 01:10:10,500 --> 01:10:17,179 I thought he were messing with us, y'know, that he'd heard about me conviction or summat, 836 01:10:17,180 --> 01:10:25,180 but they were photos of the girl on that beach in Lowestoft. And they weren't nice photos, neither, Harry 837 01:10:26,020 --> 01:10:32,939 Bought them then, did ya? - No. I wouldn't buy photos like that 838 01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:37,259 He knew who I were, Harry. He knew I'd helped hang Hennessy 839 01:10:37,260 --> 01:10:40,939 Then he said he were heading out Oldham way, said he had some business out here 840 01:10:40,940 --> 01:10:47,579 It was only last night I thought 'Oldham way', he might mean 'Harry Wade's way' 841 01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:53,539 You haven't had anybody funny hanging about the pub the last couple of days, have ya? 842 01:10:53,540 --> 01:10:55,939 What did he look like, this fella? 843 01:10:55,940 --> 01:10:59,499 Well, he were a skinny fella, longish blond hair 844 01:10:59,500 --> 01:11:06,500 London accent, I think, and well enough dressed but a sort of a... menacing look to him 845 01:11:06,980 --> 01:11:13,980 Not a hard look, but a menacing look. In his eyes, like 846 01:11:15,500 --> 01:11:18,899 I'm probably putting two and two together and coming up with five, aren't I? 847 01:11:18,900 --> 01:11:24,499 But I thought best be ont' safe side, 'cos it's second anniversary of Hennessy hanging today, in't it? 848 01:11:24,500 --> 01:11:27,659 Is it? Don't time fly? 849 01:11:27,660 --> 01:11:31,939 Aye. I suppose. I dunno 850 01:11:31,940 --> 01:11:34,339 There's three of us parched over here, Harry lad! 851 01:11:34,340 --> 01:11:38,379 Shut your bloody noise you, ya pisshead, I'll be over in a bloody minute, won't I? 852 01:11:38,380 --> 01:11:43,019 I were only saying... - Well stop saying, Bill! Stop saying 853 01:11:43,020 --> 01:11:47,939 Would you like another half, Syd? - I won't, I'll be heading off, Harry 854 01:11:47,940 --> 01:11:53,379 I only came up to tell you so's you'd, y'know, keep an extra eye on your Alice and your Shirley, like 855 01:11:53,380 --> 01:12:00,380 But I'm sure everything'll be fine 856 01:12:06,380 --> 01:12:07,939 Same again all round, is it, lads? 857 01:12:07,940 --> 01:12:09,499 Aye - I'll have a whisky, Harry 858 01:12:09,500 --> 01:12:12,539 You'll have a pint like everyone else and stop your nonsense 859 01:12:12,540 --> 01:12:14,219 I'll have a pint 860 01:12:14,220 --> 01:12:17,339 Aye, that's a good article is that, Harry. Champion! 861 01:12:17,340 --> 01:12:20,619 In't it best interview's ever been printed in that newspaper ever? 862 01:12:20,620 --> 01:12:26,899 I don't read it so I don't know, but I liked bit about Germans, 'cos they are swine, aren't they? 863 01:12:26,900 --> 01:12:30,459 They're never our friends - And never will be. I hope 864 01:12:30,460 --> 01:12:33,819 But I disagreed with bit about Hennessy hanging, didn't you? 865 01:12:33,820 --> 01:12:38,499 I always thought he were a nice lad, and there were never any proper evidence agin him, were there? 866 01:12:38,500 --> 01:12:40,099 No proper evidence, no 867 01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:43,939 Just the word of thieves and coppers, weren't it? No actual people 868 01:12:43,940 --> 01:12:45,539 Anything the matter, Harry lad? 869 01:12:45,540 --> 01:12:52,540 Is there still no sign, Harry? - No. There's still no sign